Adee + Michael Cazayoux
Working Against Gravity
Adee Cazayoux is the Founder and CEO of Working Against Gravity (WAG), an online nutrition coaching program with a mission to transform lives. Having made a name for herself in nutrition, Cazayoux has worked with elite athletes such as Katrin Davidsdottir, Jessica Lucero and Tia Clair-Toomey, just to spotlight a few. Adee is lifelong learner with a Bachelors in Honors Psychology and a Masters in Teaching and is working toward a Masters in Nutrition and Human Performance. Beyond being an entrepreneur and student of the nutritional sciences, Adee is also an accomplished athlete, having competed in the National Pro Grid League, CrossFit Open and won the Bronze Medal in the 2016 Canadian National Weightlifting Championships.
Michael Cazayoux, president of WAG, specializes in helping his team and clients “get out of their own way” by identifying self-limiting beliefs and ineffective behaviors. In fact, the back-to-back CrossFit World Cup Champion is no stranger to this unique process of self-examination. At the impressionable age of 17, Cazayoux confronted his own limiting beliefs and ineffective behaviors head on, attending drug rehabilitation to overcome his addiction to opiates. It’s this experience that inspired a love of health and fitness on a personal level, which later translated into a passion for coaching and mentoring inside and out of the gym. Prior to joining WAG, Michael cofounded Brute Strength, an online fitness training company, where he continues to contribute to operations and remains as the podcast host.
Adee and Michael live in Austin with their dog, Otis and welcomed their first child this year.
People, Quotes, and Gummi Bears mentioned in the episode:
04:00 Adee and Michael share their backstories including drug addiction and food dysfunction
05:06 Drug addiction and dysfunction around food aren’t all that different
07:25 Adee explains how the nutrition coach at age 16 helped her
10:28 Celebrity Athletes, they’re just like us; Katrin Davidsdottir, Brooke Wells
12:57 The Working Against Gravity origin story
14:22 While Adee was training under Travis Mash, he asked her to offer nutrition coaching to his weightlifting team and overnight she had 80 clients
15:28 Michael describes the WAG philosophy and user experience
17:42 What are macros anyway?
19:27 Bringing consciousness to your nutrition game is illuminating
20:12 80/20 principle (or The Pareto Principle): 20% of things that give us 80% of the results
20:27 One of Adee’s favorite quotes: “The extent to which you are unconscious of the habit is the extent to which it persists”
20:50 Is it necessary to track all your food forever?
21:25 Intuitive eating
22:11 Negative momentum i.e. falling off the wagon
22:38 Nutrition is a skillset
24:30 Let’s talk carbs
25:46 Brooke Ence
26:34 Adee and Michael did a 90 day Keto experiment and felt really good
27:53 Guess what, vegetables are carbs, fruit is carbs, carbs doesn’t necessarily mean void of micronutrients
30:27 The most important question: Can WAG athletes eat popcorn?
31:11 Sex differences? Turns out, adherence. Except for Cole Sager.
36:36 Weird food behaviors (by parents) in youth sports
37:14 When is it appropriate to initiate the nutrition conversation with youth athletes?
40:15 What about people filling their macros with foods like gummi bears?; “If it fits your macros”
42:05 Sometimes being a great coach is knowing when not to say something; The lessons you learn for yourself are more powerful than the lessons someone told you to learn
43:51 Juliet mentions she has been a WAG client before, Adee admits later she had mini panic
46:20 Hawthorne Effect
50:30 Kelly triggers everyone by asking if they have a favorite weight
52:12 “What saved you, no longer serves you” — Adee Cazayoux. Or maybe someone else. She’s not sure.
53:19 The A to B model
56:31 What’s next for WAG?
60:00 WAG socials
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