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Update: I have been following the routine for 2 weeks now. However, I havent done voodoo band work and band distractions yet because I haven’t been able to order the jump stretch bands and voodoo bands yet. I also havent gotten a soft ball yet, I will try to get one ASAP. I also tried using a 20 pound barbell with 25 pounds on one side, It didnt seem that effective, it was hard to create pressure on the muscle, I find the EZ bar to be more effective as it gives more pressure to the muscle and can be easier to manipulate. I have noticed some improvements in symptoms. Muscles are less tense, knee pain has slightly decreased. I dont know if these changes are permanent because my muscles still tighten easily. The improvements have only been mild. I also noticed that taping my patella medially and downard seems to help slightly. I Will keep at it, getting a little frustrated however. I will order the voodoo bands, and jump stretch bands, and my own electroacupuncture machine in the beginning of January. I also have an MRI appointment on January 7th. I haven’t seen any therapist for 2 weeks because of the holidays. I have also been sitting a little less, and have decided not to use the heel wedges for my leg length discrepancy.
Daily Mobility/therapy Routine:
Alpha why dont you recommend not to go overboard for over an hour? Like if I have a lot of free time, such as the holidays, wont doing more increase my progress at a faster rate?
It’s a permenant/structural leg length discrepancy. The right leg is shorter than the left by 1.1cm. This was confirmed by an x-ray. The osteopath mentioned she could try to even the leg length a little because my right hip seems to be more “junky” and tight than the left, which is also causing the right hip to be tilted forward/anterior. But is it even possible to even out a leg length discrepancy if its anatomical?
Awesome advice guys. I am going to give this a go. 3 mobs a day it is.
Separate from the above routine I have also recently added (in the last month) postural exercises.
My strengthening Routine: aprx 45 minutes, and I usually do 5 exercises, I perform the exercises as a circuit.
Hey Alpha919 and Kaitlin
About 1-2 months ago, I have also been seeing a strength and conditioning specialist whos FMS certified at hybrid fitness center in London ON. He gave me an assessment and found that I have really good mobility for someone with my symptoms (although its not perfect), so I have been working on mobility and have improved but mysymptoms are the same. He also said he couldn’t pinpoint what is going on, and the results are inconclusive. He mentioned that the biggest issue he found was that my right anterior pelvis is shifted forward (hip-mis alignment). He said that he thinks that their is tightness and “junk” in my right hip area, and he hypothesized that the symptoms I am seeing might be due to that. His sessions are 60 minutes: 30 minutes had me doing various exercises, also had me do some capsule stretches, watching my form, the other 30 minutes he would give me aggresive ART, massage therapy for the right leg and right side of pelvis area.
I am still taking the supplements and have added cissus and serrepeptase more recently. I stopped taking curcumin as their seems no benefit. I have been taking joint supplements now for about 1 year with no help. Serrepeptase is an interesting one as it apparently reduced muscle adhesions and scar tissue and is fibrolytic. No impact on me thus far tho.
My nutrition is very good, being mostly paleo, high in omega 3, and low in omega 6, and low carbohydrate (no/or very low flour, sugar, bread), organic meats, avocados, lots of veggies, vegetable shakes with lots of healthy stuff in it, eggs, beans, legumes, quinoa, nuts, seeds, coconut/avocado/olive oils etc…I drink green tea with fresh cut ginger inside for added anti-inflammatory and other health benefits. My cheat food is a decaf coffee, with a little bit of honey, and dark chocolate. I have always been pretty good in the nutrition department. I might still consider getting blood work done, but at the age of 23, and with a good BMI and what I have been told as being a fit strong person, I am not sure if its a priority. Perhaps one of the later options if nothing else seems to help?
I have considered seeing a chiropractor, but right now I am seeing an osteopath just because of convenience and price. She works at hybrid fitness center (the place where my strength and conditioning specialist works and my more recent physiotherapist who gives me postural exercises is affiliated with them). She only charges 25$ per 30 min sessions, but thats because she is still in school. She even said she will try to ask her professors and/or other peers for help on my case, and see what she can do. She also noticed that my right hip is more anterior and she noticed that my right leg is shorter. She said she will try to fix the leg length discrepancy and hip mis-alignment. I than told her that the leg length discrepancy is an anatomical one not a functional one (as confirmed on x-ray). First treatment she tried to align my pelvis and she couldnt. She said it wouldnt budge. Although she did make my back feel a lot better/looser (not really what I wanted tho!). 2nd treatment she was able to align my pelvis. She said she was surprised it aligned so easily, given that the first time it didnt want to budge. Again, no improvements however in any of my symptoms.
Thank you for the videos I will need to take a good look at them. I appreciate your time and concern to help.
Hey Kaitlin
Glancing over some of your other posts, you seem really passionate in helping
people heal. I have the same passion, but I feel like I have hit a roadblock
with myself that I can’t pass. I know that I am missing something in the puzzle
on healing myself. Glad you can offer some advice.
Therapist have tried determining the
cause of my tightness. I was instructed it was a muscular imbalance, and that weakness
in my glute medius was the main culprit. Also was instructed, and read that
glute max, the deep core muscles, and VMO had a lesser role, although still
important to address. So I was first doing basic exercises such as clam shells,
bird dogs, X-band walks, hip thrusts, planks, lying side leg lifts against wall
etc.., then I added 90/90 split squat, single leg squats, single leg deadlifts,
wobble board balance. This was in order to activate the glute medius, glute
max, and then start getting VMO involvement as well as doing more functional
exercises.
After doing all that for years I still have knee pain, I
was doing it really religiously this past summer (it actually feels like my
knee pain is worse now), But the tightness I have in my IT band and quads may
have decreased roughly 30% in the last year, and the patella seems to be
tracking better, although it feels really compressed and tilted (i.e., the
lateral half of the patella is more compressed/tilted towards the femor, this
is also slightly shown on the x-ray where their is a slight decrease in joint
space were I feel the pain coming from, although the sports medicine physician
says everything is fine, and thats just a slight tilt in the patella and their
seems to be no cartilage damage). More recently (this past month) I am also
doing postural exercises as advised by a new physiotherapist I am seeing that
is highly regarded in my area. He has me focusing on keeping an aligned spine
while maintaining different positions, and also doing body weight squats with
an aligned posture. He says I have an anterior pelvic tilt, lordosis in my
lower back, and kyphosis in my upper back. He thinks the posterior excercises
will address those issues, and subsequently reduce my knee pain and help with
the entire kinetic chain, and result in less IT band tension. He says he is
really surprised tho that I have such knee pain given that my posture isn’t
that bad (he has seen people with worse posture and in no pain), and given that
I dont do extensive physical activities, he says hes seen cases similar to mine
but the difference being is that they are overdoing physical activities such as
running a lot (marathons etc..) But in their cases their symptoms subside
dramatically once they reduce physical activities, and through some corrective
excercises their issues are resolved within a few weeks-months. I asked him
about self-myofascial release and ART etc.. He says that will only bring
temporary relief as that is only addressing the symptoms, not the cause.
I typically do physiotherapy exercises every 2-3 days now
(once upon a time I was really strict and was doing it every 2 days but noticed
I wasn’t really getting anything out of them, so I slowed down a little), The
exercises last over 1 hour, and I follow it with foam rolling, and stretching,
and suction cupping which also lasts over 1 hour. The whole session ends up
being between 2-3 hours. I also do postural exercises (in separate sessions
from the physiotherapy exercises) every day followed by foam rolling (if I dont
foam roll after the exercises my muscles will be very tight and be in pain).
The postural exercises are about 20 minutes followed by 20 minutes of foam
rolling. The physiotherapist told me to do it 4 times a day. But I dont see
that as realistic (were am I going to do them in school, and were am I going to
find the time since I am already doing so much rehab work. I have done them at least
once a day, and sometimes twice. These exercises I was doing at home, but
I was going to physiotherapy periodically to ask questions, and so they can
check my form.
Hey Alpha919
Possible Future treatments:
1) Botox (Dr. Gordon Ko in Markham) – into the vastus lateralis (any maybe hip flexor). This has shown to be effective in some recent studies for patients with refractory anterior knee pain. The idea is you shut down the vastus lateralis for 3 months, and you continue to do physiotherapy, this gives you a window of time for selectively strengthening and isolating the VMO. This will help with tracking and tilt issues, and can give symptomatic relief of muscle tightness during the 3 months. Its good for addressing muscular balance issues. Dr. Gordon Ko also does PRP, prolotherapy, hyaluronic acid, and botox into the joint.
2) HGH/testosterone/IGF-1/dextrose/PRP/PSGAS/hyaloronic acid – have read this has helped some people.I am looking into injecting into my own knee to save thousands of dollars. This can help regenerate possible cartilage damage I might have.
3) Dr. Anthony Galea (Etobicoke/Toronto) – he is a prominent sports medicine physician infamous for treating athletes and giving them HGH. Don’t know what kind of treatment he would give me. I know he does PRP, but I dont know if he can give HGH anymore since its illegal here in Canada and hes gotten in trouble for that.
Help me:
I am desperately looking for some advice and how to proceed. My chronically tight IT Band, quadriceps, and Hip flexors just dont seem to loosen up! My new physiotherapist has me doing postural work/exercises now. I have been doing them for about 1 month now. He thinks that bad posture might be contributing. 1 month ago he said to give it 3 months, and I should see improvements. (He even said that I can expect to see an 80%, but my case is a little unique so he doesnt know for sure), He is really surprised I am feeling so much pain, and tightness for not even doing that much physical activity. So far their has been no improvements with the postural exercises.
Joint supplements:
1) NEM – natural egg shell membrane (500mg)
2) pycnogenol (100mg)
3) fish oil (2000mg)
4) krill oil (500mg)
5) curcumin (500mg)
Diagnostic imaging done:
1) X-ray on knee – showed nothing abnormal besides patella tilt
2) ultrasound on/and around knee- showed mild inflammation in my right knee, nothing serious
3) MRI – getting it done in January
Previous treatments:
1) Many Physiotherapists/massage therapists/FMS certified strength and conditioning specialist- looked at mobility, muscular imbalances, glute medius, glute maxmus, VMO strengthening, core strengthening, stretching, self myofascial release, foam rolling, suction cupping, ART, massage therapy, orthotics, gait analyses, heel wedge for leg length discrepency, electrically stimulated trigger point dry needling (PENS/electroaccupuncture), acupuncture, went to Fowler and Kennedy sports medicine clinic in London Ontario and many other places. I am currently seeing a new physiotherapist whose focusing on postural work.
2) Dr Robert Banner (London ON) – 6 treatments of Prolozone injections, once every month so far. Only noticed temporary relief of pain, maybe for 2 weeks after each injection (The pain relief was dramatic tho, about 75% pain relieving effect). Has recommended EMF (electromagnetic field) protective devices such as diodes. He says it may help since my symptoms are worse on rainy days. Seems very pseudoscience tho.
3) Osteopath – Just started seeing one, had 2 treatments done. She noticed my right hip is tilted anteriorally (hip-misalignment). She is trying to re-align the pelvis. So far no benefits from treatment besides my back feeling a lot looser, and I come out of it with a better posture (which doesn’t usually last). She is inexperienced (still in school, but seems really competent), but charges a very cheap rate. She also noticed my upper back is kyphotic and lower back has some lordosis (I already knew this).
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