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Daily Mobility Exercises by Dr. Kelly Starrett › Forums › Shoulder › Where do you start when the entire system is the problem?
I’ve visited a chiro who specializes in ART and got some great news in that my shoulder problem is muscular in nature, not neurological 🙂 As it turns out, every muscle that is in any way connected to my left shoulder – and the muscles attached to THOSE, as well as the fascia, is crazy insane tight. No wonder my mobility efforts have only made minor progress – but they have certainly made more progress than anything else. (all related to too many mountain bike crashes). This is all on one side, the other appears fine.
Good question!
I think Jeanette is right, start at the centre and work your way out. But I also remember reading this somewhere – Maybe in his book where he talks about what to target first? I don’t have the book with me but I will look through it and try to find what I’m thinking of unless someone else finds it.
Now that you mention it, I do seem to remember that topic in a fairly recent episode – starting with the spine. My problem is not knowing where to go next but perhaps that is the wrong question. There probably isn’t a “right” direction to go since everything is tight, but perhaps starting with the spine (which I work on daily), then to the supporting staff such as the sub-scap/serratus/etc, and then go outwards. I will look at the book as well to see if I can find the text you remember.
This might be the video you are referring to, can’t remember for sure and I don’t have time to watch it again. http://www.mobilitywod.com/daily/tuesday-july-16th-2013/
The spine is the foundation isnt it? You cant stabilize properly if the T-Spine is stiff and if you cant create stabilize properly your shoulder/hips will develop issues which would cause a downstream effect wouldn’t it? My understanding is that no matter what you do to your ankle, it’ll still have issues if the hips are wacked – but if your hips are good it’ll atleast put less pressure downstream to the ankle allowing better positioning, which may not be the issue but why try to mobilize the ankle if its unable to get into a good position anyways. I’m not saying your PT is wrong, that’s just what my take on K-Star’s work is – which my interpretation could be way off.
3-4 treatments? That sounds like good news to me.
Speaking only from -my- experience, the spine is the goto place to resolve dysfunction. If the spine is in a good position, work out from there. I’ve made more progress in 2 weeks with a chiropractor(3 adjustments/week), than in 4 months of smashing, flossing, and otherwise groping myself.
Arron, my PT’s response wasn’t in the same context as what Kelly is talking about so it isn’t a matter of who’s right or who’s wrong. In any case, my PT was half-joking when he said it, but I did have a big toe dysfunction too. 🙂 My point was that where you start might not have anything to do with where you think the problem is.
My entire stability system was jacked up at every level. I’m slightly more than a month in on my initial mobility work. As much as I love mobilitywod.com, I think Kelly’s book (“Becoming a Supple Leopard”) does a better job of making it easy to fix any and all mobility issues extremely quickly and effective.
The book IS awesome 🙂
There may be more going on with the shoulder than previously believed – that has permanent consequences (no OH lifting) We will see tomorrow…it would be interesting to know if anyone knows of any success in building strength in an arm where the humerus doesn’t quite line up with the shoulder properly.
As it turns out I’ve mechanical restrictions to shoulder/arm movement due to large calcium deposits…who knew? Working with an Osteopath on this…I’ve been told to continue all of my mobility work to help the process.