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    • 04/25/2014 at 4:16 pm #70906
      AvatarChad Nowlin
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      Good afternoon everyone! New MWod Pro member. I have watched the 3 TKE vids KStarr has about lack of Knee extension. Here is my situation and questions:
      * 37 year old male very active (softball, Crossfit, basketball)
      * When I was 17 (20 years ago..WOW) I tore my ACL/MCL playing basketball in high school. Had surgery and never could get my leg negative degrees. They could get it neg in therapy, but by the next morning it would be back positive degrees. Well it’s been like that for 20 years.
      * My knee doesn’t bother me much, but after reading and watching MWOD, and buying Supple Leopard, I know I need to fix it
      * Sometimes after hard running or hard workouts, it really bothers me and shoots up to postive, prob + 10 degrees for a few days, then goes back to about 2-5 degrees (guessing on degrees).
      What have I done about it?:
      * Bought Voodoo bands and retention band to floss like the vids show. This works for a little bit, then in a few hours it is back up again.

      What should I do?? Any suggestions? How long should I floss? Should I do it everyday?
      * Other info: I had an MRI a few years ago (bc I just knew since I couldnt get my leg straight, there was somethign wrong)..MRI was perfect. Nothing wrong structure wise.

      Would love to here everyone’s thoughts

    • 04/26/2014 at 12:54 am #74547
      AvatarChad Nowlin
      Participant

      Anyone?

    • 04/27/2014 at 11:43 am #74554
      AvatarJeff Parker
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      I had zero terminal knee extension when I began this journey, too…what I’ve learned so far is that the years of damage I have done to myself takes longer than anticipated to work these things out

      What works best for me is the couch stretch and the samson stretch with banded distraction. Those two exercises, specifically, have helped immensely and have given me terminal knee extension where I had none
      I also had (unbeknownst to me) quad adhesions that weren’t allowing my quads to stretch to full capacity that were also keeping things too tight…once they popped themselves loose, I had more range of motion
      I spend about 4 minutes per side in the samson stretch really squeezing my glute and pressing my hip forward and 4-6 minutes per side in the couch stretch doing the same on a daily basis. Making my hip flexors, quads and hamstrings more mobile has really taken the stress off of my knees and lower back. Good luck to you! 
    • 04/27/2014 at 1:37 pm #74555
      AvatarChad Nowlin
      Participant

      Shane thanks so much for the reply! It gives me hope hearing you have been down my path. I will incorporate these moves in and keep plugging away. Did you do any flossing with Voddoo?

    • 04/28/2014 at 10:47 am #74557
      AvatarMax Sandlin
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      i had the same issue following my last ACL surgery.

      I still have some issues after hard workouts but i work on that leg 2x a day. Like Shane said, i found the couch and samson stretch with the distraction to be huge.  Shane’s description is exactly what i do also, but i i’ll do a couple things first: I found that in my instance in particular, the satorious trigger point spots are the hottest for me and doing contract/relax with a supernova or foam roller is near immediate relief. That and tack/floss my hamstrings gets everything moving smoothly when i move on to the banded distractions.

      In addition to all of that i extremely limit my sitting during the day. That hindered my recovery a lot following the surgery

    • 04/28/2014 at 11:31 am #74558
      AvatarChad Nowlin
      Participant

      Andrew thanks for the info…Do you floss using the Voodoo bands at all?

    • 04/28/2014 at 12:39 pm #74559
      AvatarMax Sandlin
      Participant

      yes. I find going through squat progressions with the voodoo bands in different locations (knee fully wrapped, high thigh, mid thigh) to be very helpful as well.

    • 04/28/2014 at 8:37 pm #74563
      AvatarChad Nowlin
      Participant

      Great info guys! You give me hope!

    • 04/28/2014 at 9:39 pm #74564
      AvatarMax Sandlin
      Participant

      Yeah man. Stay positive. Keep at it. I’ve had ACL’s done on both knees. One is fine and the other is troublesome. It’s frustrating but worth it in the end.

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