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So, I have long, long, long had a triad of pain involving the scap, shoulder and pec. I am never sure where the pain originates.. in fact, I think it moves around a lot. But most recently it lives under the scapula and it refers pain out to the pec in the form of burning angriness. Often in can also be felt in the anterior shoulder and sometimes armpit. I have tried smashing and rolling and this and that and the other. Anyone have any other solutions? I have seen many a chiro and physio that have often said to strengthen the rhomboids, to work on fixing shoulder posture, etc, but nothing ever really works. Anyone had a similar issue they solved?
Did you suffer an injury or trauma to this area?
Have you looked at your spine positioning?
Stiff upper back?
Wednesday, June 25th, 2014
What is your upper body positioning when standing/sitting?
Are you able to replicate an active shoulder position?
How long have you continued a program before changing?
How many times during a day are you working on it? May need shorter more frequent work.
Have you looked up/down stream of where you are seeing the issue?
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What about this daily rx
Saturday, June 28th, 2014
Have you done work to corrected your movement patterns?
It will be at a conscious level for awhile as this is not a new situation.
You need to break old habits and re wire new movement patterns.
This patterning may be very common, but that doesn’t make it ok.
Are you doing anything between times that you see the chiro?
No days off with mobility.
How long you are able to hold an adjustment will increase with time as the new neuropathways are grooved.
Keeping the spine in neutral at all times is a foundational first step.
Yes, this will seem like alot of work because it is at a very conscious level.
As you break the incorrect position/movement patterning it won’t be at such a conscious level all the time.
The improved positioning/movement patterns will be your default positioning/movement patterns with time.
Have you considered this?
Hi Josh, Yah I have come across that before, but it doesn’t follow my pain pattern. It seems that I follow the forward shoulder, shortened/overworked pec muscles which then refer pain to shoulder, scapula, sometimes neck.. etc. Its a vicious cycle and often hard to chase it around. Thanks tho.
There are some excellent videos on the topic of proper shoulder/scapula function, movement patterns, and fixing them by Evan Osar:
another good thing to check out. i’ve been using the crossover symmetry system for about 1.5 months now and getting some really good results: http://www.gosymmetry.com. it is working wonders for my crappy shoulders. you can get it at rogue fitness, or you can find it cheaper at atgstores.com.
David. That link has nothing to do with what you’re talking about.
how weird! that link used to work. it was a short version of this: http://crossoversymmetry.com/. sorry about that.
I have been considering x-over symmetry… good to hear it is worth it! Thanks guys!
if you get x-over, i would start lower than normal to make sure your form is perfect. also start with slower, deliberate movements. watch your shoulders out of the corners of your eyes and make sure they are doing the right thing and not drifting forward as you pull back the cables back.